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kirkm

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Post Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:38 am

Can Seviio Do This ?

Having had this work sometimes with Twonky, but never reliably, I wonder if Serviio
can do it, or better. Files recorded on my Panasonic DVD Recorder - can I copy them to or see them
on the PC running serviio ?

In the 'status' window I do not see the IP address of the recorder.

Thanks for any help either way, going nuts trying to have some success here !
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Illico

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Post Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:41 am

Re: Can Seviio Do This ?

kirkm wrote:Having had this work sometimes with Twonky, but never reliably, I wonder if Serviio
can do it, or better. Files recorded on my Panasonic DVD Recorder - can I copy them to or see them
on the PC running serviio ?
In the 'status' window I do not see the IP address of the recorder.
Thanks for any help either way, going nuts trying to have some success here !


What are your renderers connected to serviio PC: TV , DVD recorder, other ?

What is the model of your Panasonic DVD recorder? Is it DLNA compliant ? Upnp compliant? (if Twonky see it, I think there were somethink doable).
Could you try this : http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=device_sf ?

If you copy recorded file to the PC running serviio, serviio can probably stream them to a DLNA device.
Could you provide some information about file format : http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=file_np ?
Illico
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kirkm

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Post Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:01 am

Re: Can Seviio Do This ?

Many thanks for replying, I'll work through all the links and get all the info ready when back home.

Cheers - Kirk
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kirkm

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Post Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:37 am

Re: Can Seviio Do This ?

Hi Illico,

Must admit I'm not familiar with all the terms etc. but will do the best I can !

Illico wrote:What are your renderers connected to serviio PC: TV , DVD recorder, other ?


Apart from Twonky, there's

Panasonic BD77
Panasonic Viera TH-P55ST30Z
KIRK PC
Panasonic BD110
Panasonic DMR-XW380

Illico wrote:What is the model of your Panasonic DVD recorder? Is it DLNA compliant ? Upnp compliant? (if Twonky see it, I think there were somethink doable).
Could you try this : http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=device_sf ?


Yes, it's a DMR-XW380. It is present in Device Spy, but following the instructions after Invoke there's no output in the (string) Sink
window, only in the (string) Source.

Illico wrote:If you copy recorded file to the PC running serviio, serviio can probably stream them to a DLNA device.
Could you provide some information about file format : http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=file_np ?


Initially I could copy files with and without a file size. They appeared as e.g.'AV-0-268435456-268435730-1340181812_BDY'
and I could rename them to .m2ts. The ones without a file size (showing in Twonky) would not play and girt results from mediainfo.

Those that would play show this in mediainfo:-

D:\Television\MilanBrych.m2ts
Container and general information
BDAV: 5.15 GiB, 2h 0mn Maximum Overall bit rate: 28.0 Mbps
1 video stream: AVC
3 audio streams: AAC / AAC / AC-3
2 text streams: Teletext / DVB Subtitle
First video stream
1920*1080 (16:9), at 25.000 fps, AVC (Component) (Main@L4.0) (CABAC / 4 Ref Frames)
Go to the web site of this video codec
First audio stream I Second audio stream
English, 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz, 2 channels, AAC (LATM) (HE Italian, 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz, 2 channels, AAC (LATM)
First text stream Second text stream
English, Teletext English, DVB Subtitle
Note : for more information about this file, you must select a different view (Sheet, Tree...

However Twonky would not show the files on the 380 consistently. Mostly the 380 was just not there. The last time though, I could not copy anything to the PC. Even files I'd already copied there before. 'Save Link As' instead of writing the '_BDY' file wanted to write '_BDY.htm'. This ran up in Firefox but went nowhere.
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Illico

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Post Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:13 am

Re: Can Seviio Do This ?

kirkm wrote:Apart from Twonky, there's
Panasonic BD77
Panasonic Viera TH-P55ST30Z
KIRK PC
Panasonic BD110
Panasonic DMR-XW380

Ok, and apart for DMR-XW380, does serviio work with all others devices "renderer" (BD77/Viera/BD110/KIRK) ?
What is your default renderer or "DLNA player", viera TV ?

Illico wrote:Yes, it's a DMR-XW380. It is present in Device Spy, but following the instructions after Invoke there's no output in the (string) Sink
window, only in the (string) Source.

Could you provide Source String result?

Illico wrote:Initially I could copy files with and without a file size. They appeared as e.g.'AV-0-268435456-268435730-1340181812_BDY'
and I could rename them to .m2ts. The ones without a file size (showing in Twonky) would not play and girt results from mediainfo.

Could you provide MediaInfo result for the two files (with and without file size) ?
Please use MediaInfo tool result in TEXT format. http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=mediainfo

To be clear, you want to copy file to the PC with serviio, and you want to stream these recorded files to VieraTV or another device BD77/BD100.

If all devices are connected on the same network, I suggest to fix IP address for all devices, this is more stable and more easy to debug. (Can be done by the router or on each device option setting).
Illico
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kirkm

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:21 am

Re: Can Seviio Do This ?

Hi Illico,

I really appercaite your time and help with this :)

Yes, all devices (apart fom the 380) appear to work correctly.


Illico wrote:What is your default renderer or "DLNA player", viera TV ?


For playback, either the BD77 connected to SD TV in bedroom, or the Viera TV in sitting room.

Illico wrote:Could you provide Source String result?



http-get:*:application/x-dtcp1;DTCP1HOST=10.1.1.8;DTCP1PORT=60010;CONTENTFORMAT=video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=DTCP_MPEG_TS_SD_EU_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=10;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01118000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:application/x-dtcp1;DTCP1HOST=10.1.1.8;DTCP1PORT=60010;CONTENTFORMAT=video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=DTCP_MPEG_TS_SD_EU_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=10;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01118000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_TS_SD_EU_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:application/x-dtcp1;DTCP1HOST=10.1.1.8;DTCP1PORT=60010;CONTENTFORMAT=video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=DTCP_AVC_TS_HD_50_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=10;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01118000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:application/x-dtcp1;DTCP1HOST=10.1.1.8;DTCP1PORT=60010;CONTENTFORMAT=video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=DTCP_MPEG_PS_NTSC;DLNA.ORG_OP=10;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01118000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:application/x-dtcp1;DTCP1HOST=10.1.1.8;DTCP1PORT=60010;CONTENTFORMAT=video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=DTCP_MPEG_PS_PAL;DLNA.ORG_OP=10;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01118000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_PS_PAL;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG_PS_NTSC;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_24_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_24_LPCM_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_50_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_50_LPCM_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_60_AC3_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_PN=AVC_TS_HD_60_LPCM_T;DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_TN;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_CI=1;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=00D00000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_SM;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=00D00000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_MED;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=00D00000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=JPEG_LRG;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=00D00000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:application/x-dtcp1;DTCP1HOST=10.1.1.8;DTCP1PORT=60010;CONTENTFORMAT=video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_OP=10;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01118000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:video/vnd.dlna.mpeg-tts:DLNA.ORG_OP=11;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01100000000000000000000000000000,http-get:*:image/jpeg:DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=00D00000000000000000000000000000



Illico wrote:Could you provide MediaInfo result for the two files (with and without file size) ?
Please use MediaInfo tool result in TEXT format. http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=mediainfo


I'll have these tomorrow.

Illico wrote:To be clear, you want to copy file to the PC with serviio, and you want to stream these recorded files to VieraTV or another device BD77/BD100.


Yes, but not all of that. Once I have the files on the PC, there's no problem playing them. The difficulty is seeing the Panasonic 380
and copying files (from its hard drive) to the PC. It was possible with Twonky, but suddenly it became problematic to see the 380, and the last time I could not copy them, it seems to copy only shortcuts.
The reason for copying is to free up space but still have them to watch again later.

Illico wrote:If all devices are connected on the same network, I suggest to fix IP address for all devices, this is more stable and more easy to debug. (Can be done by the router or on each device option setting).


Understood. I have set the 380 to 10.1.1.8 and it does keep that address. This does not show in Status window in Serviio but these do

10.1.1.3 NFLC SDK v1.5 Generic DLNA profile
10.1.1.4 Panasonic VIErA Panasonic Viera E/S/ST/VT (2011)
10.1.1.5 Unrecognized device Generic DLNA profile
10.1.1.6 TwonkyRenderer Generic DLNA profile
10.1.1.7 Unrecognized device Panasonic Viera (2010)

Fingers crossed, and thanks again - Cheers, Kirk
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kirkm

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Post Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:06 am

Re: Can Seviio Do This ?

Hi Illico,

After help from another Twonky user, I have removed Twonky7 and installed Twonky6. This *IS* letting me
see the files again and copy them to the PC.

It would still be nice to do this in serviio though, if possible.

Illico wrote:Could you provide MediaInfo result for the two files (with and without file size) ?
Please use MediaInfo tool result in TEXT format. http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=mediainfo


The zero file size was (when working) reported in Twonky7. Version 6 doesn't show a filesize. After
transferring to the PC they again have a file size. I'm pretty sure the 0 byte ones are DTCP-IP protected
and I need to convert the file format. (To Standard def, maybe).

Here the media info text dump - first the DTCP-IP one -

General
Complete name : D:\Television\AV-0-268435456-268435685-1324189698_BDY.m2ts
File size : 5.27 GiB

and the one that plays -

General
ID : 28 (0x1C)
Complete name : D:\Television\AV-0-268435456-268435717-1347697532_BDY.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 5.17 GiB
Duration : 1h 13mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 10.1 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 28.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 280 (0x118)
Menu ID : 1200 (0x4B0)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 12mn
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 330 (0x14A)
Menu ID : 1200 (0x4B0)
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : HE-AAC / LC
Muxing mode : LATM
Codec ID : 17
Duration : 1h 13mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Minimum bit rate : 110 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 189 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -479ms
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 335 (0x14F)
Menu ID : 1200 (0x4B0)
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : HE-AAC / LC
Muxing mode : LATM
Codec ID : 17
Duration : 1h 13mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Minimum bit rate : 63.8 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 173 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -508ms
Language : Italian
Language, more info : Visual impaired commentary

Audio #3
ID : 431 (0x1AF)
Menu ID : 1200 (0x4B0)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1h 13mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -855ms
Stream size : 201 MiB (4%)
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 1010 (0x3F2)-100
Menu ID : 1200 (0x4B0)
Format : Teletext
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 1095 (0x447)
Menu ID : 1200 (0x4B0)
Format : DVB Subtitle
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 1h 12mn
Delay relative to video : 2s 453ms
Language : English

Regards, Kirk

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