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nachotheix

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Post Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:03 pm

Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

There are some DLNA clients for these devices, for example Media Link Player, Plug Player o Media::Connect. These devices support very little video formats and it's neccessary to do transcoding for avi, etc, etc.
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Post Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:11 pm

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

If you can provide supported formats then we can try, but I think iPhone only supports mov with H264/aac - and MOV is not a transcoding friendly container.
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Post Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:55 pm

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

might not be helpful, but this is from the iPhone 4 spec page:
Video formats supported:
  • H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
  • MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats
  • Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
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Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:25 pm

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

zip wrote: MOV is not a transcoding friendly container.

unfriendly container != impossible container

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Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:32 pm

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yep
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Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:11 pm

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

Apart from the container's proverbial unfriendliness, to please them iDevices, we'd have to resize, too.
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Post Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:19 pm

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resizing isnt an issue for the server as the renderer should happily do that.
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Post Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:20 am

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Apple are really missing a trick here. They bang on about how the iPad2 GPU is 9 times faster than the first gen one, but it still can't play proper HD h264 with surround audio (though I'm sure it could). While you have to transcode all your content specifically for this device it's a loser. And of course you can't even do it on the fly because mpeg2ts isn't a supported container. They also lock 3rd party app developers out of their hardware video decode API which seems very short-sighted.

What's even more of a missed opportunity is that Apple want you to use their own AirPlay standard that only works with an Apple TV, an extra device that you have to attach to the TV. Great, welcome to last decade.

I'll still be buying an iPad2 for the other benefits, but it will be quite a shame I won't be able to use it to stream h264 from Serviio.
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Post Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:07 am

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patters wrote:What's even more of a missed opportunity is that Apple want you to use their own AirPlay standard that only works with an Apple TV, a extra device that you have to attach to the TV. Great, welcome to last decade.

I think it's their answer to DLNA, isn't it?
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Post Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:00 pm

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At least Apple don't ban DLNA apps from their Appstore (yet), so they accept that there are other standards.

Cerberus wrote:resizing isnt an issue for the server as the renderer should happily do that.

In this case the renderer's resizing capabilities are very limited, playing back lager than bitesize videos comes to a grinding halt after a few frames.
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Post Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:59 am

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zip wrote:I think it's their answer to DLNA, isn't it?

True, but pretty pointless since they're ignoring an open system built in to all modern consumer electronics in favour of something proprietary you need yet another device for. Back to the dark ages of AV :) And to hear then prattle on about how they embrace open systems over closed ones like Adobe Flash...
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Post Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:05 am

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I hate Apple :-)
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Post Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:25 pm

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zip wrote:I hate Apple :-)


seconded
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Post Fri May 20, 2011 7:53 am

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

Lowlander wrote:At least Apple don't ban DLNA apps from their Appstore (yet), so they accept that there are other standards.
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Cerberus wrote:resizing isnt an issue for the server as the renderer should happily do that.

In this case the renderer's resizing capabilities are very limited, playing back lager than bitesize videos comes to a grinding halt after a few frames.

here are some DLNA clients for these devices, for example Media Link Player, Plug Player o Media::Connect. These devices support very little video formats and it's neccessary to do transcoding for avi, etc, etc.
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Post Fri May 20, 2011 10:22 am

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

Hi there,

the only App I tried so far that brings reasonable codecs (or any codecs at all) is AirPlayer. Has anyone tried iMediaSuite, SmartStorFusionStream, the latest Media Link Player, yxplayer2, LivingMediaPlayer or - which looks most promising to me - Media::Connect against Serviio?

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Post Mon May 23, 2011 1:55 pm

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

I bought BUZZ Player HD myself, and it works nicelly with Serviio. Now I need a profile to transcode my videos to a lower resolution. BUZZ Player has a lot of codecs, and it can also play movies through SMB (which I use now). I also have AirVideo, which can transcode movies too. If I get Serviio to transcode, AirVideo will be gone (almost gone, the Convert button is convenient ;))
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Post Sun May 29, 2011 9:57 am

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

I've been using yxplayer2-lite on my iPad and iPhone.
UPNP DLNA works like a treat using Serviio on my WHS.
The only thing is yxplayer2-lite dosn't do Air Video, it just does Air Play (audio only) to the Apple TV.
So besides hacking my Apple TV2 box and installing XBMC, does anyone know how to send Video to the Apple Tv using Serviio as the server? (and not iTunes)
Is there a yxplayer2 type app that does Air Video and DLNA?
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Post Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 am

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

Maybe you should check XYplayer 3 lite. I managed to create a profile for it, but it seems I cannot make a transcode profile so that it can play MKV files without heavy stuttering...

Here is my transcoding profile attempt:

  Code:
<Profile id="15" name="iPhone - YXplayer 3 Lite" extendsProfileId="1">
      <Detection>
      <HttpHeaders>
         <User-Agent>.*Platinum.*</User-Agent>
      </HttpHeaders>
      </Detection>
      <SubtitlesMimeType>text/srt</SubtitlesMimeType>
      <ContentDirectoryMessageBuilder>org.serviio.upnp.service.contentdirectory.PanasonicDLNAMessageBuilder</ContentDirectoryMessageBuilder>
      <Transcoding>
         <Video targetContainer="mpegts" aBitrate="64" maxVBitrate="300" forceVTranscoding="true">
            <Matches container="matroska" />
         </Video>
      </Transcoding>
   </Profile>


They claim that it can play 720p AVI's but for me it still stutters...
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Post Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:12 pm

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

Hi all,

I just made myself a nice and quick "just transcode absolutely effing anything to mpeg2/ac3 low bitrate" iPhone profile, and it plays everything smoothly and so far in sync as well, even former 720p stuff.

I'm not too sure about the picture quality though, but I don't give too much about picture quality on such a small screen anyway. It seems to play across a vpn connection as well, I'll dig further into this tomorrow.

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Post Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:24 am

Re: Iphone/Ipod/Ipad profile

Just tried that YX Player and AVIs are being played at half frame rate or thereabouts. Unwatchable for me really.

I'm continuing to try and get things ready for when FFmpeg can output an AppleHTTP chunked stream:
https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... ible-audio

It would be good if a few of you guys could test this audio transcoding for say mkvs with ac3 or dts and report back. Obviously at this stage you need to preconvert, then add the resulting mp4 to the library. If you need a version of FFmpeg with libfaac you can get it here:
http://oss.netfarm.it/mplayer-win32.php

Whats strange is that I can process a one hour long file on my work PC (3 year old Core 2 Duo CPU) in 3 minutes, but on my home PC (8 year old P4 HT) it can only just about manage 70fps so would take around 50mins to do the same job. Did CPUs really get 20 times faster in 5 years?! Or is that the effect of SSSE3 etc?
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