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Should audio transcoding perhaps default to >192K?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:44 pm
by patters
I recently bought gaming headphones which have a Dolby Headphone processor which takes a 5.1ch AC-3 feed. Transcoding 5.1 channels at 192K sounds pretty bad. I had been using my TV's speakers until now so it hadn't bothered me. I have tested that even my Synology NAS can transcode it at 640K in realtime. I know a few people have objected to the current Sony BDP profile transcoding DTS audio in mkv mainly because they can hear it sounds a lot worse.

Are there any reasons it shouldn't default to 640K, at least for 5.1 transcoded streams? Or is the problem that some renderers don't accept it?

Re: Should audio transcoding perhaps default to >192K?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:47 pm
by Cerberus
patters wrote:I recently bought gaming headphones which have a Dolby Headphone processor which takes a 5.1ch AC-3 feed. Transcoding 5.1 channels at 192K sounds pretty bad. I had been using my TV's speakers until now so it hadn't bothered me. I have tested that even my Synology NAS can transcode it at 640K in realtime. I know a few people have objected to the current Sony BDP profile transcoding DTS audio in mkv mainly because they can hear it sounds a lot worse.

Are there any reasons it shouldn't default to 640K, at least for 5.1 transcoded streams? Or is the problem that some renderers don't accept it?


640k seem a little excessive to me 320K would be a better level in my opinion and then even sloer servers and network would cope fine. :)

Re: Should audio transcoding perhaps default to >192K?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:01 pm
by patters
A Synology NAS is a slow server though. I think AC-3 encoding is pretty quick. 192K is fine for 2ch but sounds decidedly bad with 5.1, and lots of people are feeding the output into a surround receiver. I mean obviously we are free to mod the profiles.xml, but I'm wondering if the bar is set a bit too low. Like you say, maybe 320 or 384 should be the default.

Re: Should audio transcoding perhaps default to >192K?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:53 pm
by Cerberus
patters wrote:A Synology NAS is a slow server though. I think AC-3 encoding is pretty quick. 192K is fine for 2ch but sounds decidedly bad with 5.1, and lots of people are feeding the output into a surround receiver. I mean obviously we are free to mod the profiles.xml, but I'm wondering if the bar is set a bit too low. Like you say, maybe 320 or 384 should be the default.


yer sorry i ment 384k lol :)

Re: Should audio transcoding perhaps default to >192K?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:42 am
by zip
I'm a bit worried this might possibly break some profiles so would rather not play with it ;-)

If you want to change the default, you can unzip serviio.jar, find serviio.properties and change value of property

  Code:
transcoding_default_audio_bitrate

Re: Should audio transcoding perhaps default to >192K?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:56 am
by patters
Nice. I wonder if we should collect all these parameters for the documentation or the FAQ.

Re: Should audio transcoding perhaps default to >192K?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:52 pm
by Cerberus
patters wrote:Nice. I wonder if we should collect all these parameters for the documentation or the FAQ.


id build a wiki site for the project but have no were to host it atm.

Re: Should audio transcoding perhaps default to >192K?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:28 am
by zip
I'm planning to put up a page in the Support page listing all -D parameters at least.... the unzipping jar stuff is a bit hardcore :-)

Re: Should audio transcoding perhaps default to >192K?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:07 am
by Cerberus
zip wrote:I'm planning to put up a page in the Support page listing all -D parameters at least.... the unzipping jar stuff is a bit hardcore :-)


thats why you keep us around cause we are the hardcores :P