will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:47 pmIf not, could this be a thing for the future?
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:47 pmRe: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:55 pmIt does use it.
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 12:58 pmzip wrote:It does use it.
OK, HOW??? or maybe I mean for what purpose?
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 1:12 pmIt exctracts metadata, like author, title, etc. Similar to mp3 tags.
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 1:38 pmzip wrote:It exctracts metadata, like author, title, etc. Similar to mp3 tags.
On my Sony BDP-S370 I can see a limited number of fields from mp3 tags metadata, but nothing from flac
On my WDTVLIVEHD it seems flac shows Album Title, Artist and Genre, same as mp3.
A: I would like to be able to see ALL metadata tag fields,. This might need a rewritten renderer FW, I suppose.
B: I would like to be able to search and choose what to play based on metadata content, i e be presented with a menu item "Album" and an item "Composer". Like what happens in iPods. Can this be controlled by just the DLNA server, or will the rendering device need to understand these menu items explicitly?
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:29 pmA: I would like to be able to see ALL metadata tag fields,. This might need a rewritten renderer FW, I suppose.
That would be the renderer, and not serviio.
B: I would like to be able to search and choose what to play based on metadata content, i e be presented with a menu item "Album" and an item "Composer". Like what happens in iPods. Can this be controlled by just the DLNA server, or will the rendering device need to understand these menu items explicitly?[/quote]
no reason why serviio couldnt do this BUT if you add to many sections, it could get abit messy and hard to use imho.
That would be the renderer, and not serviio.
B: I would like to be able to search and choose what to play based on metadata content, i e be presented with a menu item "Album" and an item "Composer". Like what happens in iPods. Can this be controlled by just the DLNA server, or will the rendering device need to understand these menu items explicitly?[/quote]
no reason why serviio couldnt do this BUT if you add to many sections, it could get abit messy and hard to use imho.
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:19 pmCerberus wrote:A: I would like to be able to see ALL metadata tag fields,. This might need a rewritten renderer FW, I suppose.
That would be the renderer, and not serviio.
B: I would like to be able to search and choose what to play based on metadata content, i e be presented with a menu item "Album" and an item "Composer". Like what happens in iPods. Can this be controlled by just the DLNA server, or will the rendering device need to understand these menu items explicitly?
no reason why serviio couldnt do this BUT if you add to many sections, it could get abit messy and hard to use imho.[/quote]
Well, if adding composer gets us past the limit, taking "random" away would fix it, and at no conceivable loss whatsoever....
OK, I'm being provocative, but that's actually how I feel.
Configurability, now there is a possible solution...
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:25 pmn3mmr wrote:Cerberus wrote:A: I would like to be able to see ALL metadata tag fields,. This might need a rewritten renderer FW, I suppose.
That would be the renderer, and not serviio.
B: I would like to be able to search and choose what to play based on metadata content, i e be presented with a menu item "Album" and an item "Composer". Like what happens in iPods. Can this be controlled by just the DLNA server, or will the rendering device need to understand these menu items explicitly?
no reason why serviio couldnt do this BUT if you add to many sections, it could get abit messy and hard to use imho.
Well, if adding composer gets us past the limit, taking "random" away would fix it, and at no conceivable loss whatsoever....
OK, I'm being provocative, but that's actually how I feel.
Configurability, now there is a possible solution...[/quote]
user configurable catagory has been decussed in the past and ZIP decided he was not going to add that and random is one of our most popular catagories for music.
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:08 amCerberus wrote:n3mmr wrote:Cerberus wrote:A: I would like to be able to see ALL metadata tag fields,. This might need a rewritten renderer FW, I suppose.
That would be the renderer, and not serviio.
B: I would like to be able to search and choose what to play based on metadata content, i e be presented with a menu item "Album" and an item "Composer". Like what happens in iPods. Can this be controlled by just the DLNA server, or will the rendering device need to understand these menu items explicitly?
no reason why serviio couldnt do this BUT if you add to many sections, it could get abit messy and hard to use imho.
Well, if adding composer gets us past the limit, taking "random" away would fix it, and at no conceivable loss whatsoever....
OK, I'm being provocative, but that's actually how I feel.
Configurability, now there is a possible solution...
user configurable catagory has been decussed in the past and ZIP decided he was not going to add that and random is one of our most popular catagories for music.[/quote]
Gaah.
I suppose "music" means a very different thing to the populus.
As opposed to what it means to us educated old geezers.
Suffice it to say that for REAL, ACTUAL music, i e music worth the effort of arranging for playback and sorting and finding, there is structure:
A movement is part of a composition which is a part of an opus, and for the serious listener this structure must be kept visible and used for sequencing playback.
And an opus has a set of differentiating characteristics and is a part of what a particular composer has written.
The same structure can be seen in other serious genres, where sometimes the Artist takes the place of Composer, and Album becomes the opus, and so on.
Still, it would make the experience so much nicer to be able to select Schönberg -> Chamber Music -> Verklärte Nacht and get a display of
Verklärte Nacht: Pierre Boulez, O de la Suisse Romande
1st Movement
2nd M
3d M
Verklärte Nacht: Conductor 2
1st M
2nd M
3d M
and so on, and klicking the Header "Verklärte Nacht: Conductor 2" would play all 3 movements in sequence of the recording by Conductor no 2..
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:13 amAdding new categories is ok,as you can always disable then in the console 
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:29 amzip wrote:Adding new categories is ok,as you can always disable then in the console
Elucidate, please!
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:38 amI mean no problem asking for new browsing categories like Composer as (if you wish it) it can be disabled in the console so that you only have those categories you like on the TV.
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:49 amzip wrote:I mean no problem asking for new browsing categories like Composer as (if you wish it) it can be disabled in the console so that you only have those categories you like on the TV.
Oh, GOOOODIE!!
I'll sit down and make a reasonably minimised list of categories I wish for.
I suppose you'd want me to say where to find the values, too?
Gimme a week!
Re: will serviio use the metadata in Flac files?
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:33 pmYou can comment on this ticket here: https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... e-category
These have been done for 0.6 already:
https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... udio-files
https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... bum-artist
These have been done for 0.6 already:
https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... udio-files
https://bitbucket.org/xnejp03/serviio/i ... bum-artist